: a conversation with :
Full Name: Burt Colk
Age: 25
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Occupation: Mostly unemployed
Hobbies: It's all hobbies now
Pets: No
1: the heavy part
Where are you from, originally? What was it like there?
I grew up in Needham, MA. Trying to figure out what Needham was like
is a game I only started playing in college. When I actually lived
there, I just thought of it as 'normal'; it looked more or less like
the place where The Simpsons lived, or Mickey Mouse for that matter.
A lot of kids in high school were always saying that there was nothing
to do in Needham, but I'm still not sure what it is they wished they
could do. I guess buy alcohol. It's a dry town. They also wanted to
smoke a lot of pot, so I don't know exactly what town they had in
mind. Needham High School was rumored, by kids from Needham High
School, to have been pictured in "High Times" magazine with the
caption "Weedham High." A lot of old people seem to live there. I am
now charmed by the fact that a lot of stuff in town still looked like
it was the 60s, at least when I was growing up. Of course now a lot
of that's changed – like, they've installed a horrible sculpture of
children dancing on the green in the center of town. It was meant to
deter teenage goths from hanging out there, and I think it worked.
Harvard, eh? Did your experience at the school meet/exceed/not live up
to your expectations? How?
In answer to your first question: mm-hm. In answer to your second and
third questions: My expectations of Harvard, to the degree that I had
any, were mostly based on which characters in movies were said to have
gone there – young lawyers, rich bad guys, brilliant research
scientists, and the Unabomber, who, admittedly, hasn't yet appeared in
a movie. Except for Unambomber: The True Story (1996) (TV). This is
to say that I wasn't really expecting anything in particular. From my
point of view, the biggest distinction Harvard has is that its famous
name attracts people so astoundingly ambitious that if you haven't met
such a person, I can't even begin to explain what they're like. But
meeting these people, and then meeting other people like me who didn't
quite identify with them – this all seemed very valuable and formative
and I'm certainly glad I went, just for the people. As for whether I
learned more or better than I would have anywhere else, almost
definitely not. But who cares?
How did you end up in New York?
Same way I ended up at Harvard…when you don't have any clear personal
goals or practical knowledge of the world, the place with the biggest,
loudest reputation seems like the best bet. I was in D.C. for a year
between college and here. I guess because it's the CAPITAL.
Update us on your situation in life?
I was working as an editor at a publishing company for a year, and
various sorts of dissatisfactions with the job and with myself were
really weighing on me, and the job wasn't going to lead anywhere and
somehow seemed to leave no room in my head for thinking about anything
else, so after a long period of agonizing, I quit it with the
intention of living off my savings for a while and trying to figure
out what I actually wanted to be doing with myself. That was in
October, and that's still where I am now: living in my own place in
Brooklyn and struggling head-on with the problem of making my life
seem meaningful to me. Ugh.
How long have you been playing the piano? Did you ever quit? (I did, twice.)
Was the second time permanent? (More or less.) Do you still play? (Not very often.) I started going to
lessons when I was…5? 6? Either 5 or 6. When I was…I don't know, 11
or something, I reached the end of some basic curriculum with my local
piano teacher, and my father decided he would teach me further at home
– he's just an enthusiast and amateur, but I think he felt that there
wasn't enough actual musicianship being taught and that I was ready
for something more advanced, and more free. That situation only
lasted a little while because of some psychological friction inherent
in having my father constantly judging my performance from a teacher's
perspective, and the structured lessons gradually degenerated. But it
was right after that, when I was finally left to my own devices, that
I started getting really into music – I suddenly felt like I had a
personal relationship with it rather than a mediated one, and it
became exciting to me. So no, I never quit, but I didn't actually
like it until it sort of quit me.
We understand that you are writing a musical. How did this come about?
I'm always sort of dipping my toes in the waters of being a creative
artist type, but then putting it off for practical reasons, and part
of this quitting my job adventure was that I would make myself go
through with a real big creative project and see what I actually had
in me. A musical, basically because I feel like musicals are
generally terrible, and people who know that they're terrible tend not
to write them, so the "you have nothing to contribute!" voices in my
head aren't quite so imperious regarding this particular form. Of
course typing this just now made me feel like "who the hell do I think
I am?" so it's all very fragile. Broadway here we come!
Favorite musical?
Interesting. When I was younger, I thought that Sondheim's music was
pretty cool and would have said Sunday in the Park with George or
something, but recently I've started to feel like those shows are all
irritatingly mannered…so I'm gonna say On the Town.
Favorite instrument other than the piano? Why?
I've always been pretty intrigued by the harp. It has such a familiar
sound with really strong connotations, and is capable of being
completely gorgeous in both cheesy and non-cheesy ways, and yet almost
nobody anywhere can play it or has even encountered one. Harpists
always seem to be attractive women and/or Harpo, but I still think
it'd be cool to know how to play the harp. Also the banjo.
Have your early to mid 20s been like you imagined? Why or why not?
Once when I was maybe 12, my mother put out salad with dinner and told
me to eat some, and I apparently told her that I didn't want to that
night, but that she needn't worry because I planned to eat salad "in
my twenties." This is one of those lame lines that my family repeats,
now, so I've been forced to remember it – but my point in telling it
here is that I probably was serious, and that that's pretty much the
degree to which I imagined my 20s at all. As the end of college
approached, I remember describing my frustratedly limited conception
of my own future to a friend as being like approaching the line of the
horizon and waiting to see the land on the other side of the ridge,
and being inches away and still not seeing it, which means it must be
a near-vertical drop. Which in some ways is how things have felt.
"All-encompassing post-collegiate confusion" is one of the biggest
markets these days so I'm not going to claim that anything
particularly distinctive has happened to me in this respect.
Which was the best year, for you, of the aforementioned early to mid 20s?
Why?
Well, if 21 is in the running, that's it, far and away, but I suspect
that we're talking about the "all-encompassing post-collegiate
confusion" period here, which is both the reason why I choose 21 and
the reason why it shouldn't count. My first year in New York felt
good, late-23 to early-24, but it doesn't align well with my birthday,
as you can see. I'm about to turn 26 and right now things in my head
feel hopeful for a change, if not actually stable – let's see how long
I can keep it up.
Ideally, what will your life look like on New Year's Day
2006?
I just did a google image search on the phrase "complete awesomeness"
and came up with only one hit: http://x-theway.tripod.com/. I could
have worked up a serious answer but I think everyone gets what the
deal is with me by this point.
2: the not-heavy part
Describe a good night out...
I like going out to medium-range restaurants with friends and talking,
just like everyone else does. It's worth noting that the nights I
actually remember best are rarely those nights – and it's only in my
memory that the assessment of a night out as "good" can really
settle in, so the nights that seem happiest to me are often anomalies
with some odd dramatic touch or other, and those can't be planned or
described generally. They're rare, necessarily.
And a good night in the apartment?
Most of the things I genuinely like to do are classed as "rainy-day
activities" by healthier people, and I am almost never at a loss to be
well-entertained in my apartment. I guess a good night is any one
where other people join me in that kind of stuff because it pleases
them to and I don't have to worry that we're only in the apartment
because I'm weighing everyone down. I worry about that a lot.
Current favorite ethnic food and, if possible, dish.
As I'm typing this, I have a stomach bug of some kind, and my sense of
food is skewed. Is there a name for the peculiar way in which those
words don't quite rhyme? Probably not. I used to write 'pasta' when
faced with this question on "let's get to know you" surveys, because
a) I like pasta, who doesn't? and b) I don't think favorite foods
reveal very much about people, so it probably doesn't matter. I
highly recommend delicious Jyoti canned Indian foods.
What have you been listening to?
My music intake waxes and wanes over each year, and this month I'm
sorry to say it's on the wane. The CD I currently have overdue from
The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts is Ernesto
Halffter: Complete Music for Piano Solo; Adam Kent, piano, which is
very charming.
Was hast you been reading?
Most recently and most likely-to-finish-ly, The Life and Opinions of
Tristram Shandy by Laurence Sterne. It's making me laugh quite a bit,
though it's certainly not to all tastes. Whenever I tell Beth about
stuff that amused me, she says, "It sounds really silly." But that's
exactly what pleases me, that it turns out that an 18th-century thick
classic work is a sympathetic, easy read and, indeed, really silly.
Imaginary professors in my head are objecting that you're not supposed
to call literature 'easy,' but I just mean that, you know, I haven't
gotten bored or confused.
What have you been watching on TV?
Nothing, although I plugged my computer into my TV the other day and
played Galaga.
Seen any movies lately? What did you think?
I saw a Hungarian movie called Kontroll a few days ago, and though it
was one of those style-over-substance dream-logic movies and had some
serious problems, I basically enjoyed it. But I think it might really
rub me the wrong way if I ever saw it again. I should never have seen
Sling Blade a second time.
3: the cocktail party
So you're having a cocktail party: list five A-list guests, other
than
Jesus, me and your friends...
First of all, I can't in a million years imagine myself hosting a
cocktail party. I've never hosted a party - or had a cocktail for
that matter - so the whole thing is unlikely even before Jesus shows
up. Second of all, I am completely uncomfortable talking to famous
people, so if the idea is that these people are going to be there but
aren't my friends, I'm not sure I'm up for it. I just told Beth that
I wasn't sure how to answer this question, and she said, "you should
say 'some hot babes'." That I hadn't yet dared consider this answer
reminds me of the familiar "dammit, why didn't I ever go for it?"
sexual hindsight feeling that lots of nerds have, so I'm going to
seize the day and say "some hot babes."
What drinks will you serve?
I frequently rave about this amazing Marks & Spencer apple juice I had
in London several years ago, the likes of which I have never tasted in
the States, so I'm going to take advantage of the fantasy nature of
this party to get another carton or two of that, thanks. I guess to
appease the babes I'd see if their profiles mentioned any drinks under
"turn-ons" and have some of that stuff on hand. Actually I'd probably
just hire a good catering service and explain about the babes and
they'd know what to do. If they don't, I'm firing them and getting
someone else.
What will be on the stereo?
Maybe some horrible screeching noises, just to remind people that the
party is only make-believe. If the babes made me turn it off I guess
I'd let you decide what to put on, Steve.
Conversation topics will include:
I think it would be hard to focus on any real conversation under the
imaginary circumstances, so I'd probably just suggest that everyone
get in a circle and play "Mafia" or "Botticelli" or one of those other
stupid games. That'd bring back memories of my freshman year of
college. If the babes weren't into it I'd pretty much just let them
choose the topic.
How will the evening end?
Just like Super Mario Brothers 2.